“Allahu akbar” means “Allah is greater,” i.e., greater than your God, and the conversion of Hagia Sophia into a mosque, both in 1453 and 2020, is a declaration of Islam’s victory and superiority, so it is not at all surprising that this would be shouted there.
“Extreme provocation in Hagia Sophia: Hundreds of children shout ‘Allahu Akbar’ (VIDEO),” Orthodox Times, August 3, 2022:
Video footage from the interior of Hagia Sophia in Constantinople, where hundreds of children shout the Islamist slogan “Allahu Akbar” causes great dissatisfaction.
They are members of the TÜGVA (Turkish Youth Foundation), in which the Turkish president’s son, Bilal Erdogan, is said to hold a leading position. The foundation had organized a “Summer School Meeting of Hagia Sophia” in Hagia Sophia….
mortimer says
The Hitler Youth Movement of Turkey.
Heil Mohammed! Victory hail! Jihad hail!
A former leading officer of the Hitler Youth, Alfons Heck declared,
‘Radical Islam is worse than the Nazis … teaching children to hate is the worst form of child abuse.’
Beneath the Veil of Consciousness says
Where do they hold their junior summer youth goose-stepping classes? It’s a shame that on the eve of the 21st anniversary of Islam’s attack on America and we still can’t speak openly about the true nature of this hideous ideology.
mortimer says
The Koran commands Muslims to humiliate the kafir. That is what they are doing here … crowing about the defeat of the Eastern Byzantine Church. Allah is SUPREME over the kafirs and so are Muslims.
Now, Pope Francis is helping Muslims to infiltrate and subjugate the West as well.
Allah akbar, Your Holiness! These chants will also resonate in Saint Peter’s if you don’t change course.
Nikiforos Fokas says
I think what you mean to say is “the Roman Empire”.
gravenimage says
Nikiforous, Muslims also regularly gloat about having humiliated Christians. The conquest of Byzantium was not just purely political–conquering Christians and other unbelievers and forcing them to accept dhimmitude or be killed was–and is–a major goal of Islam.
Muslims conquered Constantinople over half a millenium ago. If this were purely political they would not feel the need to have children screaming “Allahu Akbar” (Allah is greater than your God) in a Christian cathedral.
Nikiforos Fokas says
It is not just the muslims. Christians are attacked both physically and psychologically by every facet, at any level and by all echelons of modern society. Even by those same religious institutions (church) that are supposed to protect them. So it will get darker before we see light but we all know, even the muslims know how this ends…
gravenimage says
Wait–what Churches are physically attacking Christians? Citations, please.
Nikiforos Fokas says
Didn’t the Pope just apologize for what happened to the orphanages in Canada? All the molestation cases aren’t exactly that, attack on Christians by the church itself? I can quote many cases of gross misappropriation of funds in various churches, this is a financial type of attack on the members. What is happening now between the Ecumenical Patriarchate and the Ukranian Orthodox Church? Need more?
gravenimage says
Nikiforos, I never said that Christians and Christian organizations cannot behave badly–surely, some have. But the claim that Christians are attacking Christians because they are Christian is pretty sketchy–I haven’t seen it.
It is a core tenet of Islam to humiliate and harm unbelievers. Implying that there is anything like this in Christianity is mistaken.
mortimer says
Agree partly with NF. In this particular case, though, I think it is the Church that is being desecrated with glee.
Of course, Constantinople fell to the Ottomans in 1453, but they aren’t celebrating that in this gathering of the Turkish Youth, imho. The goal is to destroy secularism in Turkey and replace it with Ottoman fanaticism.
Apparently, Erdogan wishes to revive the Ottoman Empire in real time. He is training the next generation of Ottoman soldiers in this case to do so in the future.
gravenimage says
True, Mortimer–that is also part of the goal here.
Ibrahim Khaleel says
Where does Qur’an say to humiliate Kafir? Do you know who is a Kafir? You are just spreading a misunderstanding.
gravenimage says
What claptrap–does Ibrahi Khaleel think that Infidels are incapable of reading the Qur’an?
“Those who resist Allah and His Messenger will be humbled to dust, as were those before them: for We have already sent down clear Signs. And the Kafirs have a humiliating penalty”
–Qur’an 58:5
As for the meaning of Kafir, that is non-Muslim or unbeliever. The specific meaning is “rejecter of the [Islamic] truth”. So this refers to all non-Muslims who don’t accept the vicious warlord, pedophile, slaver, rapist, and mass murderer Muhammed as the Prophet.
tim gallagher says
Just the usual disrespect Muslims show to all non-Muslims. What bugs me is that we generally keep on showing tolerance and respect towards Muslims, which is something they do not deserve. Non-Muslims are too nice to these intolerant, disrespectful Muslims. All our non-Muslim countries should have Hungary’s attitude and keep islam at arm’s length by not letting these enemies into our countries.
mortimer says
Islam is not supposed to tolerate KUFR (wrong think) or MUSHRIKS (wrong worshippers).
Tolerance of kafirs and kufr is seen as a dereliction of Islamic duty.
tim gallagher says
No doubt about that, mortimer, these youths in this report are typical Muslims, which is why I think we non-Muslims, should give the same treatment right back to Muslims. It is them or us. The same war from Muslims towards non-Muslims for 1400 years now. I have to say that i do meet some Muslims who do seem OK, maybe lukewarm types of Muslims, but I generally think that this miserable religion, islam, deserves as much respect as nazism deserves, no respect whatsoever. To my mind, the best approach is to keep Muslims out, in the way Hungary does, and avoid all the crap this enemy of our way of life brings. I suppose that, unfortunately, many countries need oil, so we can’t tell the Muslims to bugger off. Without the oil, I do think our countries might just tell Muslims they are not welcome in our countries.
GreekEmpress says
This breaks my heart. Our ancestors worshipped there until the squatters came.
gravenimage says
Grimly true, GreekEmpress.
mortimer says
The Muslims did the same thing to the holiest shrine of Judaism, the Temple Mount.
They built mosques out of the rubble of hundreds of Hindu temples they destroyed.
The Moors destroyed all the churches in southern Spain and used the rubble to build their mosques and palaces.
The Muslims smashed and then blew up the statues of Buddha.
The Muslims in Iran are destroying all the remaining shrines and holy places of Zoroastrianism.
Islam is the wrecking ball of any culture that stands in its way.
gravenimage says
Yes, Mortimer–Islamic supremacy is a completely orthodox part of this creed.
Eratosthenes says
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somehistory says
And, what does anyone wanna’ bet, these *perps* were some who would shout that if they lived in turkey?
I’ll admit to being wrong, if it turns out that they are infidels.
“Attack on worshipers in a New Jersey mosque is being investigated as a bias incident”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/attack-on-worshipers-in-a-new-jersey-mosque-is-being-investigated-as-a-bias-incident/ar-AA10nXLM?cvid=999ed5733fee498d83e99b5c4ddf5154
gravenimage says
Thanks for that link, Somehistory. The attackers *threw rocks* at Mosque-goers. That sounds pretty Islamic to me… Also, one of them pretends to take his shoes off on first entering the Mosque–few Infidel “Islamophobes” would know enough about Islam to do this.
somehistory says
No one was really hurt, either. But, oh, they “were scared” and next time it could be “knives or bullets.” sure.
gravenimage says
Also, at least a half dozen Mohammedans from the Mosque followed them out onto the street. Would anyone genuinely frightened of the intruders do this? Of course not–they’d be more likely to lock the door.
somehistory says
Idiots expect us all to believe they are under attack by the infidel….if they really thought that, why would so many want to come here…except they aren’t afraid and they want to take over and make this like the countries they left behind.
the killings in NM…I have my doubts that it is an infidel doing that, also. It’s more likely that it is another mozlum rather than an infidel. But the media is just lapping it up, as if those are the only murders happening in the world.
gravenimage says
Exactly, Somehistory–and just what I was thinking. I imagine this story will largely go away as a national story if that turns out to be the case.
Prince Eugene says
In 1095 the Crusades were the response to the plea from the Emperor of the Greeks to the Pope to save his Christian nation after 461 years of continuous Jihad attacks. Europe gave up the Crusades in 1291. However Muslims did not give up Jihad and finally conquered the capital of the Roman Empire, Constantinople in 1453.
Muslim invaders finished off the old and weak; and they enslaved the rest. Roman treasures were stolen, relics destroyed, men butchered, and the women and children were forced into sexual slavery.
Sultan Mehmet II ordered the announcement that there’s no God but Allah, and Muhammad’s his prophet from the high pulpit of Hagia Sophia. At this, the grandest church in Europe became a mosque like hundreds of other churches in Constantinople and elsewhere in the fallen empire. Millions of Christians became dhimmis; and tens of thousands were killed.
And Jihad continues unabated with, or without, Bergoglio’s useless dialogue.
gravenimage says
Turkey: Hundreds of children inside Hagia Sophia scream ‘Allahu akbar’
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More Muslims teaching their children hate and brute supremacy.
Andrew Blackadder says
muslims in the UK have taken over Churches that closed due to a lack of worshipers and so obviously muslims see all of that as a victory for their allah dude.
Most of the kids in this Sofia mosque have no idea it was built as a Christian Church as islamism is more brainwashing than even nazism was/is.
Johnny B says
Most lefties and politically correct will think this is wonderful and that all they do is express their love for Allah in a peaceful way. If they even have any idea about the whole Hagia Sophia Church vs. Mosque controversy – and it’s history – they will even think that it surely should be a Mosque now that Turkey is a Muslim country. They will be completely blind to the fact that this is a power-demonstration and will probably not wake up until all the Christians are out of the way and they temeselves are next…
Alfredo says
We live in desperately sick world.
Where instead of teaching good values to the new generations,
they are indoctrinated to worship false pagan idols, in stolen buildings.
The Hagia Sofia is stolen property.
Eratosthenes says
When Vladimir, king of Russians sent his people to visit the Agia Sofia in Constantinople, when they returned they said ” we did not know if we were in earth or in heaven”. Judging from the beauty of byzantin hymns and orthodox icons i hear and see today, they were right to wonder if they were in heaven.
gravenimage says
Also, for over a thousand years Hagia Sophia was the greatest cathedral in Christendom. Only the new St. Peter’s Basilica in Rome–started after the fall of Constantinople to the Muslim hordes–can be considered any kind of real rival.